Reliance Jio – Two Experts Opine

Update: 3rd September 2016. Reliance Jio website had the following plan terms and conditions updated as a clarification on 2nd September 2016. Calls will not be charged against the Data quota.

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Adding my two penny:

28 days validity = Customers make 13 payments in a year. Sweet Deal 🙂

In one of the expert article in this piece, it calculates 149 x 12 per year. Actually it is 149 x 13 per year (Multiply by consumers and Reliance makes a neat pick even here)

For those interested in a good comparison between service provider you can check out this piece : How cheap are the Reliance Jio Tariffs Anyway?

Presenting two articles posted by Experts on the much hyped Reliance Jio products, that was launched by Mukesh Ambani yesterday (1st September 2016).

“What’s the catch?” – By Divay Makkad

Long post, but do read if you are zapped by Reliance Jio (also share to spread awareness)

Lot of buzz around Reliance Jio .. but there has been one question lingering on all minds following this Launch ..

“What’s the catch?”

Reliance Jio Calls are not Normal Voice calls but VoLTE much similar to VOIP in term of call measurement.

One thing which is not clear since it hasn’t been communicated, is that, would the data consumed by making this ‘voice’ (which actually is a data based) call be counted against your monthly quota of data?

And that is where the answer to the much intriguing question “What’s the catch” may lie.

There is a huge possibility that this being a data only, all the VoLTE calls will be metered and data used by the call will get deducted from your data plan, Just like WhatsApp just WhatsApp calls are App restricted but with Jio you can call other networks.

So now comes the main question, how much data would a HD Voice Call (VoLTE is HD Audio) consume.

If you do the maths, its 733 bits per 20 ms, roughly around 300 Kb per Minute. But this is theoretical, coz with overheads of network, the call would be around 500-700 Kb per minute.

Which means a 10 Minute call would cost you 5-7 MB of Data. This is how calls would start to be imagined, in terms of data not minutes. So considering Rs.149 plan, 10 minute call would cost roughly around Rs 3.5 which is not bad but should’ve communicated earlier.

(Edit: As mentioned in comments by someone who is actually using the trial, the VoLTE app shows 250 MB consumed for 100 calls.. Wow that is much higher than WhatsApp call.. And it will be coz its HD Voice on LTE)

Turns out with a little search that VoLTE is already prevalent in the US and people have faced similar concern as seen by these screenshots of chat between a user and T Mobile support with contradicting responses.

So it won’t be that you with Rs. 149 you make 100 Calls and get 300 MBs. The data that those 10 Calls consume, would deduct from your

Its a good service and has disrupted the market, but this one piece of communication would’ve made it even better.

So Mr. Ambani, please clarify only one thing .. Would the data used by VoLTE calls be accounted against Plan’s Actual Quota of Data? Coz if it does and its not communicated, even with this really good service, you are inviting a lot of nagging customers.

And the common thing that will be heard is, I made 250 calls and Used 100 MB of internet and now my 300 MB data is completely exhausted !!!

Please share so we can get more clarity and better communication from a communications company.

Divay Makkad's photo.


Link to Original Article on Facebook is below (If it is still available there)


A MUST READ CRITICAL EVALUATION! – By Vaithianathan Subramanian

Reliance Jio: The Champion of Revolutionary Digital India or Evolutionary Analog India?

I must admit that I was euphoric over the Reliance Jio launch today morning. Also, thanks to the media hype, I initially believed that it was a “revolutionary” service for data users like me who are glued to the internet all the time. But as the hours passed, reality began to sink in.
After some quick analysis, I have come to the conclusion that it is not for data users lke me who are constantly browsing the internet, but instead, it is actually for those who are constantly chattering on phone. i.e It is not for data (Digital India), but for voice (Analog India).

Let me take up some of the hyped up highlights & try to explain why it does not convince me to make a switch.

1) First & foremost, it is portrayed as the messiah for data users. All the news channels have been highlighting that the data charges on Reliance Jio is as low as Rs 50/GB. This is actually highly misleading because that low rate of Rs 50/GB would be applicable only when you buy the high end monthly pack of Rs 4,999 !! In that pack, you get around 75 GB which roughly translates to Rs 50/GB. But in a normal pack like Rs 499 per month, you get only 4 GB, which translates to around Rs 100/GB. And if you consider the Rs 19 pack which gives 100 MB, it translates to around Rs 190/GB.

2) In the entry level package of Rs 149 per month, although you get unlimited voice calls (which is highly appreciated), you get only 300 MB of data. So, it is definitely not for a data user like me, but for someone who hardly uses internet, and wants unlimited calling facility.

3) The Rs 19/day pack is marketed as the entry level chota pack which can cater to casual users who want to browse internet occasionally on a need basis. But there is nothing revolutionary about it because it offers only 100 MB for Rs 19 & the validity is 1 day. Suppose I am on the Rs 149/month pack and I exhaust my 300 MB within few days and one fine day I want to book an Ola cab or watch a 1 min YouTube video, then I must shell out a minimum of Rs 19. (There is no pack smaller than that). But if I am on Airtel/Idea/Vodafone, I can go for their Rs 9 pack and get 35 MB. i.e Instead of spending Rs 19 on Reliance Jio to book an Ola cab, I can recharge Rs 9 on Airtel & get the work done. Also, it is to be noted that Airtel/Idea offer 100 MB of 4G data for Rs 24 which has a validity of 3 days, which I feel is much better than Jio’s 100 MB of 4G data for Rs 19 which has a validity of just 1 day.

4) As explained above, the Rs 149/month pack makes no sense for data users because it gives only 300 MB. The next pack is the Rs 499/month pack which has 4 GB of data (along with the default unlimited calling feature). Since unlimited calling is available in both the Rs 149 pack as well as Rs 499 pack, then the only difference is that the 499 pack gives you additional 3.7 GB of data at an additional cost of Rs 350.
=> Rs 350 for 3.7 GB? Sorry, not convincing. Your own brother Anil Ambani & his competiors been offering 5-10 GB of data for less than Rs 400. Yes, I agree that while they are offering 3G, you are offering 4G, but at the end of the day, the total data remains the same. I mean, the incentive is not good enough to call your Rs 499 plan a “revolutionary”

5) Let me take up the next pack. Rs 999. I get 10 GB of data (along with the default unlimited calling feature).
Compared to the Rs 149 pack which already has unlimited calling feature, what I get in this pack is effectively 9.7 GB of data for Rs 850.
I am not impressed because if I spend a little extra, I can get unlimited 3G from BSNL. Yes, Unlimited 3G by BSNL for Rs 1099.
Check this:…/articlesh…/53858131.cms

6) Now that I have seen how even the Rs 999 pack fails to impress me, due to much better offering from BSNL. Why should I pay Rs 999 to Reliance for 10 GB data, when BSNL is offering me unlimited data for
Rs 1099?

What is my conclusion finally?
For a data user, Reliance Jio is not impressive. If the usage is more than 1 GB per month, then the Rs 149 pack should not even be considered because it has only 300 MB. In the next pack, Jio offers 4 GB data for Rs 499 which is not revolutionary, but since it says night time is unlimited, I think it can be called “evolutionary”. But still that is not such a great incentive to switch.
In the next plan which costs Rs 999, it offers only 10 GB, whereas BSNL gives me unlimited data for almost the same price.

That’s about my personal requirements.
Now let’s look at the overall benefit for the masses.

The only major advantage for the masses is the unlimited voice calling which can be availed for Rs 149 per month. In today’s scenario, most of the mobile users, especially among the working class, are actually prepaid users with free lifetime validity connections, upon which they regularly recharge Rs 20-30 which usually lasts for almost a month for them. For example, I personally know many taxi drivers, vegetable vendors, mechanics etc who hardly make outgoing calls. Even if they make an outgoing call, it would not last for more than a minute. Such people tend to use only Rs 30-50 talktime per month, for which only Rs 50 top-up recharge is sufficient. (Such recharges have unlimited validity and they usually prolong it for 2 months as well).
Now, if they must go for Jio just because the free voice calling is tempting, then it means they must shell out Rs 149, which lapses after 28 days (It has 28 days validity), after which they must again recharge Rs 149 and so on. For someone who is used to topup of Rs 20-30 per month (and that too on a need basis), such a mandatory cost of Rs 149/month sounds very expensive. That translates to around 149*12 = Rs 1800 per annum, compared to their existing habit of regular topups which might come up to a total of just 20*12 = Rs 240 per annum which is sufficient for their practical purposes.
That’s a whopping 6 times higher, just for unlimited voice calling, whether you really do unlimited calling or not.

(Some people might say that Rs 149 per month is very cheap, but let’s not forget that we are a nation where every rupee matters. We are a nation which does not give up even LPG subsidy so easily because even Rs 100 is important. So, the logic of “Rs 149 per month is nothing” might hold good for urban elite but not for rest of India).

So, as we can see, the only upside is unlimited voice, and not data. Even the unlimited voice for Rs 149 sounds high for the majority who are happy with their Rs 20-30 topup once in every 20-30 days.

Hence, it is difficult to categorize Reliance Jio as a revolutionary data service, but it can be a good voice service if one is into chattering regularly for 1 hour outgoing call every day.

Now that we have analyzed that the Jio plans are not revolutionary, can we atleast call it evolutionary? Not really. By claiming itself as a path for Digital India & provide internet to the masses, it might actually end up becoming popular only for its unlimited voice, and since voice services are considered “backward” (corollary of the rhetoric “data services are the future”), it is certainly not evolutionary.

This way, Jio, according to my analysis is chalking out the vision of “Analog India” (voice), but not “Digital India” (data).

Link to Original Article on Facebook is below (If it is still available there)